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I agree that, if you want facts, you should ...John,<br />I agree that, if you want facts, you should read a history book. Fact is fact and fiction is fiction. That's why novels have a disclaimer in the front of the book.Patricia Gligor's Writers Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801554698484928100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-5726817120240250002011-11-20T07:08:36.958-08:002011-11-20T07:08:36.958-08:00Excellent post, John I really agree with you.
Phil...Excellent post, John I really agree with you.<br />Philippa Gregory sells tons of books but she does twist the facts.<br /><br />I studied history but would not class myself as an historian, I enjoy history and reading fact and fiction but I can differentiate between them.<br /><br />Keep up the good work, John.margaret blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04994723897446758457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-57283710983185215852011-11-20T06:39:34.429-08:002011-11-20T06:39:34.429-08:00Excellent post, John.
I agree with most of the co...Excellent post, John. <br />I agree with most of the comments when it is the twisting of the unknown facts between the known ones that bring flavor to a historical novel. Not being a historian myself I was impressed with Ken Follett Pillars of the Earth and have read reviews that was pretty accurate.J. H. Bogránhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11139508453464446992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-56313733817948331672011-11-20T00:12:12.988-08:002011-11-20T00:12:12.988-08:00Here, here John...thank you for the clarity even t...Here, here John...thank you for the clarity even though there are those who still confuse fact with fiction; especially historical fiction. AugieAugiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17848187134055619150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-76799725571852497792011-11-19T20:41:37.861-08:002011-11-19T20:41:37.861-08:00I have no trouble with good writing, whether histo...I have no trouble with good writing, whether historically based or historically based with a twist. Interesting that some argue accuracy in a work of fiction; how do we even know the historians were accurate? We're taking the recorded words of dead men who may have been biased. Moreover, when I want to study history, I read history books. CAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-66340509315380576842011-11-19T16:45:35.039-08:002011-11-19T16:45:35.039-08:00Bernard Cornwell often adds such historical afterw...Bernard Cornwell often adds such historical afterwords, too, which I think is an excellent practice.jrlindermuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09204855909246670628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-6816292620977486612011-11-19T15:36:13.369-08:002011-11-19T15:36:13.369-08:00A historical novel can be described as a novel set...A historical novel can be described as a novel set in a period of history which, among other things, gives the “feel”, spirit, and social conditions of the time. To be worthwhile, it should portray that period with some degree of accuracy. Still, that gives the author a lot of freedom. However, the author also has a responsibility to the reader. So actual facts of history should not be twisted to far as to break them. We all know of current leaders who claim that the holocaust did not occur. Authors Dan Brown and Steve Berry each add author notes to explain some of the parts that are consistent with the history. But, Berry also points out certain aspects of the novel that have no historical backing – or are of questionable historical accuracy. When Brown says A, B, and C are actual facts, but does not mention that D and E are not facts, the reader hears that this book is based on fact. There is a tendency to believe the entire book is factual. In this respect, Berry is fairer with the reader.<br /><br />So, basically, I’m saying: be fair with the reader.Jim Callanhttp://www.jamesrcallan.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-48634830560717646812011-11-19T15:16:38.099-08:002011-11-19T15:16:38.099-08:00Matthew Arnold, Samuel Johnson, Oscar Wilde, Napol...Matthew Arnold, Samuel Johnson, Oscar Wilde, Napoleon, Voltaire and countless others argue history is not fact, but what we choose to believe of events we have not witnessed.<br />Not saying I totally agree, but...jrlindermuthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09204855909246670628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-28650726474535160922011-11-19T15:09:30.628-08:002011-11-19T15:09:30.628-08:00If a book is based on historical facts, then I wan...If a book is based on historical facts, then I want the facts. However, it's the "in between the facts" that an author can recreate. I hope that makes sense. It's true that John Wilkes Booth assasinated President Lincoln. But what might the President and Mrs. Lincoln have talked about before the performance? What small tidbits could be added to make the reader care more about the characters? Just don't change the known facts. And let the reader know you've added your own input to the story.Marja McGrawhttp://www.marjamcgraw.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-36945612660187491602011-11-19T13:47:18.511-08:002011-11-19T13:47:18.511-08:00I once created a scrolling screen saver that said ...I once created a scrolling screen saver that said "A writer reinvents the truth." I have tried to teach former policemen how to take "Just the facts" and make them readable fiction. <br /><br />However, as a lover of historical fiction, I'm always hoping the author is giving me facts. I have no problem with creative license to interpret the material to make a good story.Sunny Frazierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03693884364418711551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-9576672299903907642011-11-19T13:12:31.055-08:002011-11-19T13:12:31.055-08:00I think that it's okay to embellish the person...I think that it's okay to embellish the personality, or add things that didn't happen to things that did. But I don't think that facts should be changed for the sake of fiction.Jennifer Wilckhttp://www.jenniferwilck.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-18448059607110651042011-11-19T13:09:58.564-08:002011-11-19T13:09:58.564-08:00All good points. Historical fiction works best wh...All good points. Historical fiction works best when liberties are taken not with actual historical figures, but with fictional characters inserted into historical situations. For example, when Caleb Carr introduces Charles Darrow in The Alienist, Darrow behaves as the historical Darrow would. But the other characters are products of Carr's imagination.<br /><br />William Doonan<br />www.williamdoonan.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-86585940783159562822011-11-19T12:55:47.013-08:002011-11-19T12:55:47.013-08:00I agree with Paula, and I'm both a novelist an...I agree with Paula, and I'm both a novelist and a historian by degree and profession. I am willing to exercise creativity and inventiveness out the wazoo if there is no documented evidence of what happened. But to change the known facts for the sake of a a "good story" is unfair, both to the real people whose lives you may slander and to the reader, who ought to be able to trust the author not to tell outright lies.Carolyn Schriberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06331752887270892647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6975660612181993995.post-54072000906777639282011-11-19T12:34:47.211-08:002011-11-19T12:34:47.211-08:00Hi John - while I agree with you about making the ...Hi John - while I agree with you about making the setting and characters appropriate to the period, I'm less happy with historical authors twisting the facts about actual events or characters, unless they are writing a 'What if?' type of story. But, being an historian by profession, maybe I'm biased in favour of historical events and people being shown accurately, and not misrepresented.Paula Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10040623635956769807noreply@blogger.com